I posted on the security service’s questioning (and alleged harassment) of Communist League activist Annalucia Vermunt.
Anon and my old anarchist sparring partner Sam Buchanan, took exception.
Once again your libertarian hypocricisy stinks. You obviously support this politically motivated harassment despite supposedly supporting the right of individuals to choose whatever political ideology they want.
Stop calling yourself a libertarian your quite obviously a right wing conservative.
It’s not that Trev’s not a libertarian, it’s just that right-wing libertarianism has decided that ‘freedom’ is defined as ‘right-wing libertarianism’.
Therefore if you disagree with Trev, you are an enemy of freedom, and therefore a legitimate target of state harrasment, persecution and violence (Trev says he’s against violence, but he doesn’t count state violence as violence – at least, not when it’s used against people he doesn’t like).
Or possibly Trev simply defines words differently from everybody else – his whole political project could be an interesting linguistic experiment.
I’d like to clear a few things up here.
Firstly-what is a libertarian?
To me a libertarian is someone who believes that every individual should be free to do as they please as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others.
That is-no stealing, murder, rape, fraud, breach of contract, libel, slander, assault, blackmail or coercion. No crime, in other words.
To guard against these threats, libertarians, are willing to support a state run justice system and a police force.
There is a third legitimate role of the state-security of the nation. That consists of armed forces to protect us from foreign invaders, pirates, fish poachers etc.
That also means that the state has a right and an obligation to establish some form of intelligence service.
The role of intelligence is to monitor foreign armed forces, terrorists, spies, subversives, armed radical groups etc.
I have no objection to the security services monitoring Annalucia Vermunt and was pleasantly surprised that they took her seriously enough to check her out. If this was done inappropriately, that is another matter and she has every right to complain.
I would have no objection to the SIS, or other services monitoring Sam and his mates, Tame Iti’s Urewera “terrorists”, Kyle Chapman’s weekend warriors, Student’s for Justice in Palestine, Save Happy Valley Coalition, Paul Bruce, Julie Webb-Pullman, Jeff Sluka, Geoff Karena etc etc etc.
Likewise, I also have no objection to the “spooks” checking me out.
The intelligence services are an essential part of any free society. Every free society has its enemies, just as it has criminals.
Those who think it is OK to conspire against the freedoms of others, or to use use violence to advance political ends, should be monitored by the intelligence services. Where appropriate, evidence gathered should be turned over to the police for approriate action.
I am a libertarian. I support your right to believe or do anything you like as long as you don’t hurt anyone else, threaten our freedom, or damage the security of this great nation.
If you do either-lookout.
The full force of the state is about to descend on your unworthy head. As it bloody well should.