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Here's something odd about the wiki page of the Nazi Party being anti-Capitalist:
Nazi publications and speeches included anti-capitalist (especially anti-finance capitalist) rhetoric. Hitler attacked what he called “pluto-democracy,” which he claimed to be a Jewish conspiracy to favor democratic parties in order to keep capitalism intact. The “corporation” was attacked by orthodox Nazis as being the leading instrument of finance capitalism, with the role of Jews emphasized. The National Socialist party described itself as socialist, and, at the time, conservative opponents such as the Industrial Employers Association described it as “totalitarian, terrorist, conspiratorial, and socialist.”
The Nazi Party’s 1920 “Twenty-Five Point Programme” demanded:
…that the State shall make it its primary duty to provide a livelihood for its citizens… the abolition of all incomes unearned by work… the ruthless confiscation of all war profits… the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations… profit-sharing in large enterprises… extensive development of insurance for old-age… land reform suitable to our national requirements…
Nazi Party officials made several attempts in the 1920s to change some of the program or replace it entirely. In 1924, Gottfried Feder proposed a new 39-point program that kept some of the old planks, replaced others and added many completely new ones. Hitler did not mention any of the planks of the programme in his book, Mein Kampf, and he only mentioned it in passing as “the so-called programme of the movement”.
Hitler said in 1927, “We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance.” However, In 1929, Hitler called socialism "an unfortunate word altogether" and said that "if people have something to eat and their pleasures, then they have their socialism". According to Henry A. Turner, Hitler expressed regret for having integrated the word socialism into his party's name. Hitler wrote in 1930, “Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true Socialism is not.”
In a confidential 1931 interview, Hitler told the influential editor of a pro-business newspaper, “I want everyone to keep what he has earned subject to the principle that the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State… The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners.” Party spokesman Joseph Goebbels claimed in 1932 that the Nazi Party was a “workers’ party” and “on the side of labor and against finance”. According to Friedrich Hayek, writing in 1944, “whatever may have been his reasons, Hitler thought it expedient to declare in one of his public speeches as late as February 1941 that ‘basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same.’ ”"
Let me do you a favor and show you what the Fascist Manifesto states under Mussolini's command:
Politically, the Manifesto calls for:
Universal suffrage polled on a regional basis, with proportional representation and voting and electoral office eligibility for women;
Proportional representation on a regional basis;
Voting for women (which was opposed by most other European nations);
Representation at government level of newly created National Councils by economic sector;
The abolition of the Italian Senate (at the time, the Senate, as the upper house of parliament, was by process elected by the wealthier citizens, but were in reality direct appointments by the King. It has been described as a sort of extended council of the Crown);
The formation of a National Council of experts for labor, for industry, for transportation, for the public health, for communications, etc. Selections to be made of professionals or of tradesmen with legislative powers, and elected directly to a General Commission with ministerial powers (this concept was rooted in corporatist ideology and derived in part from Catholic social doctrine).
In labour and social policy, the Manifesto calls for:
The quick enactment of a law of the State that sanctions an eight-hour workday for all workers;
A minimum wage;
The participation of workers' representatives in the functions of industry commissions;
To show the same confidence in the labor unions (that prove to be technically and morally worthy) as is given to industry executives or public servants;
Reorganisation of the railways and the transport sector;
Revision of the draft law on invalidity insurance;
Reduction of the retirement age from 65 to 55.
In military affairs, the Manifesto advocates:
Creation of a short-service national militia with specifically defensive responsibilities;
Armaments factories are to be nationalised;
A peaceful but competitive foreign policy.
In finance, the Manifesto advocates:
A strong progressive tax on capital (envisaging a “partial expropriation” of concentrated wealth);
The seizure of all the possessions of the religious congregations and the abolition of all the bishoprics, which constitute an enormous liability on the Nation and on the privileges of the poor;
Revision of all contracts for military provisions;
The revision of all military contracts and the seizure of 85 percent of the profits therein.
"With fascism being more protective of individual property rights – although those individuals have less say about how they then administer their property."
Big joke. Have you READ the Fascist Manifesto on what it states? Doesn't sound like it's going to protect private property. Mussolini was a former Italian Socialist.
Yes and according to Cobras argument the Democratic People's Republic of Korea must be a very democratic place indeed.
Actually one of the main differences between fascism and socialism is individual property rights. With fascism being more protective of individual property rights – although those individuals have less say about how they then administer their property.
I do find it amusing the lengths that some (especially those of the libertarian ilk) right-wingers go to distance themselves from fascism. Authoritarianism and Libertarianism exist in both the left and right wing political spectrum
Let's not forget that the Nazi party was "The National SOCIALIST Party".
And there are few policy differences between nazi and communist policies…
Fascism and socialism are not mutually exclusive.
People have been characterizing Obama as a socialist.
After reading Jonah Goldberg's brilliant book "Liberal Fascism" I believe that "fascist" is a better characterization for Obama. In particular, the parallels to Mussolini's form of fascism are quite remarkable, and troubling.
So yes, get ready for the: Ostapo!
Congressman Rogers (R-MI) introduced HR 4453 on January 13, 2010, and we expect Congress to support this bill to revoke the President’s Executive Orders 13524 and 12425.
Congressman Walter Jones (R-NC), one of the co-sponsors of HR 4453, provided important information about these EOs in an article published by the Beaufort Observer on January 15, 2009.
Among the many things in the article, he states. “It should be remembered that Team Obama has contended that "EO 13524 did not change anything." So one would assume President Obama would not oppose HR 4453”… and, “The latest cause for concern is President Obama's recent Executive Order granting the international police organization Interpol immunity to operate in America beyond the confines of our laws and Constitution, and without oversight by any American law enforcement agency.”…
In addition to EO 13524 and EO 12425, here is a list of other very disturbing documents for which the American people deserve an explanation:
1. The President enacted EO 13528 on Jan 11, 2010: “Establishment of Council of Governors”
2. DoD Directive 1404.10 was established on Jan 23, 2009: “DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce”
3. Soros-supported RAND Corp Report of 2009: “A Stability Police Force for the United States”
4. H.R. 675 was introduced on Jan 26, 2009: “TO AMEND TITLE 10, United States Code, to provide police officers, criminal investigators, and game law enforcement officers of the Department of Defense with authority to execute warrants, make arrests, and carry firearms.”
5. HR 645 was introduced on Jan 22, 2009: "National Emergency Centers Establishment Act"
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645 (under DHS control, not FEMA)
6. DHS Report, April 7, 2009, identifying returning military and “right wing” people as TERRORISTS
Please recall that President Obama stated during the campaign, “We’ve gotta have a Civilian National Security Force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s