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Al Qaeda in New Zealand?

Submitted by on July 31, 2013 – 10:16 pm EST4 Comments

Even in quiet peaceful New Zealand.

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From MSNnews NZ

There are al Qaeda operatives in New Zealand who were trained in camps overseas, Prime Minister John Key says.

He was explaining on Thursday why the Government Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) needs to have the authority to spy on New Zealanders on behalf of the police and the Security Intelligence Service (SIS).

“In the real world, in New Zealand, there are people who have been trained in al Qaeda camps, who operate out of New Zealand, who are in contact with people overseas, who have gone off to Yemen and other countries to train,” he said on MoreFM.

“That’s the real world, that’s the reality of what we’re dealing with.

“I accept there’s a balance between national security and privacy but people need to put a bit of perspective around it.”

Mr Key says flags are raised when suspicious phone calls are made.

“If you dialled up a person on an international list, an al Qaeda operative, you could be reasonably sure that would set a flag up somewhere – and for bloody good reason.”

The bill that gives the GCSB authority to spy on New Zealanders is due for its second reading in parliament on Thursday afternoon.

Opposition parties oppose it.

Mr Key says Labour is playing politics and the Greens simply don’t believe the state should have any powers.

“That’s a lovely world to live in,” he said.

Mr Key explained the GCSB helped other agencies for years, right through the term of the previous Labour government.

He said the bill gives it legal authority to do that, and significantly strengthens oversight of its surveillance.

It wasn’t until last year that it was discovered legislation covering the GCSB had a clause in it which forbids it to spy on citizens or residents.

It stopped helping the police and the SIS in August last year, and won’t start again until the bill is passed.

Mr Key says national security has been compromised in the meantime.

I have interviewed a New Zealander, a convert to Islam and who was trained by Muslim terrorists in the Middle East and sent back to New Zealand as a “sleeper.”

He told me that his Mosque – by no means an extremist one, was full of young men who adored New Zealand. They loved the beaches, the lifestyle – but they still wanted to go and commit at least one act of Jihad in their lives.

And yet there are still people who tell us the government should have no surveillance powers.

4 Comments »

  • JoeHollinger says:

    “A person that is willing to give up a little freedom for a little security deserves neither freedom or security” Ben Franklin

    No matter what, nothing is bad enough to give up any part of your freedom. There is always a way to solve problems, even those you feel threaten your security and that of your country. Don’t rely on government to do what the People can do themselves. Your country belongs to the People, who are free and have liberty, and not to government that cannot be trusted not to abuse your trust and endanger your liberty and freedom.

    The power is in your people, your citizens, your voters. The most important thing a citizen can do is to work hard to keep as many people as they can involved in the government of their country.

    The biggest threat to freedom is a complacent citizenry who are more interested in what the government will give to them at no cost than they are in the welfare of their country.

    A government powerful enough to give you everything you want is a government powerful enough to take away everything you have.

    You do not want the government to have any part of your privacy. Let them spy on those they know have questionable histories and are likely suspects for wrong doing and leave the rest of the people who are law abiding people that are supposed to be innocent until proven otherwise. Remember always your roots and the foundation upon which your freedom and liberty have been built. They are precious and enduring, but, they will crumble without careful attention and maintenance.

  • Trevor says:

    You are of course right Joe. I think there are some big misunderstandings here. I have no problem with a government spy surveilling cross traffic..ie seeing where electronic signals are going through the ether.

    That is no different in principle to a an alert policeman watching who is talking to who on his patch. There is no right to privacy in a public space.

    Actually reading content is an invasion of private property and must have a warrant, and obviously good grounds for suspicion.

  • DebraP says:

    Money going in/out of a country is also worth watching.

  • Douglas says:

    Good grief.
    I hope and pray you all wake up and soon.

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